[Officiel] Le blabla des Onchois et des Sardinonches

Oui c'est de la connerie la rhétorique des puissants pour nous contrôler d'avantage
Pendant le covid les gens ont gueule justement c'était trop de contrôle

Non mais justement c’est intéressant de voir ces différences et d’identifier les root-causes.

Intéressant oui

Il y a pas de notion de bien ou moins bien, c’est pas des jugements de valeurs.

Juste comprendre par quoi se traduit les cultures.

Les root cause c'est l'histoire de la centralisation de l'état français par rapport à d'autres pays en Espagne c'est pas du tout comme ça

J’ai jamais parlé de notion de bien ou moins bien
Pourquoi t’amènes d’instinct le jugement de valeurs?

Trop de centralisation c'est mal

C’est l’une des explications.

Concernant le Power Distance ça serait aussi lié à une très longue histoire de monarchie ABSOLUE.

AHI

The fundamental issue addressed by this dimension is the degree of interdependence a society maintains among its members. It has to do with whether people's self-image is defined in terms of "I" or "We". In Individualist societies people are supposed to look after themselves and their direct family only. In Collectivist societies people belong to 'in groups' that take care of them in exchange for loyalty.
France, with a score of 74, is shown to be an individualist society. Parents make their children emotionally independent about the groups to which they belong. This means that one is only supposed to take care of oneself and one’s family.

The French combination of a high score on Power Distance and a high score on Individualism is rather unique. We only find the same combination in Belgium and, to some degree, in Spain and northern Italy.

This combination is not unique, but it also creates a contradiction, so to speak. Only so to speak, because scores in the model don’t influence anything. They just give a structured reflection of reality. This combination manifests itself in France in the following ways:

It is claimed that one reason why the French are less obese than people in other EU countries is that parents still have more sway over children than in other EU countries. Whether this is true or not is not known by us. All the same, what is true is that the family has still more emotional glue than in other Individualist cultures. This is a reflection of the high score on Power Distance with its stronger respect for the elderly. Subordinates normally pay formal respect and show deference to their boss, but behind his/her back they may do the opposite of what they promised to do, as they may think that they know better, yet are not able to express so. Another reflection of high Power Distance contrary to formal obedience is the total rejection of those in power as there is no way to change by evolution but only by strikes, revolts, and revolution. Employers and trade unions don’t talk together as they look at each other as almost belonging to a separate species. The need to make a strong distinction between work and private life is even stronger in France than in the US, even though the US scores higher on Individualism. This is a reflection of the fact that employees more quickly feel put under pressure than in the US because of their emotional dependence on what the boss says and does. In cultures that score high on Power Distance and Collectivism, the “normal” combination, such dependence is welcomed. At least, if the power holders act as benevolent fathers. The French prefer to be dependent on the central government, an impersonal power center that cannot so easily invade their private life. What is human, but more pronounced in France, is the need for strong leadership in times of crisis. Despite that, when the crisis is resolved the president should make space for much weaker leadership. Many French need to become a “patron”, whether as mayor of a small village or as the chairman of the bridge club. Customer service is poor in the eyes of all those Anglo-Saxons who believe that the customer is king. Not so in France. The French are self-motivated to be the best in their trade. They, therefore, expect respect for what they do, after which they are very much willing to serve you well.

Mdr

even though the US scores higher on Individualism

Le score d’individualisme des USA :

The fundamental issue addressed by this dimension is the degree of interdependence a society maintains among its members. It has to do with whether people's self-image is defined in terms of "I" or "We". In Individualist societies people are supposed to look after themselves and their direct family only. In Collectivist societies people belong to 'in groups' that take care of them in exchange for loyalty.
A score of 60 indicates that the US is an individualistic culture. It reflects itself in the American premise of “liberty and justice for all”, which is evidenced by an explicit emphasis on equal rights in all aspects of American society and government. Within American organizations, superiors are accessible, and managers rely on individual employees and teams for their expertise. Both managers and employees expect to be consulted, and information is shared frequently. At the same time, communication is informal, direct, and participative to a degree. The society is loosely knit in which the expectation is that people look after themselves and their immediate families only and should not rely (too much) on authorities for support. There is also a high degree of geographical mobility in the United States. Americans are the best joiners in the world; however, it is often difficult to develop deep friendships. Americans are accustomed to doing business or interacting with people they don’t know well. Consequently, Americans are not shy about approaching their prospective counterparts to obtain or seek information. In the business world, employees are expected to be self-reliant and display initiative. Also, within the exchange-based world of work, we see that hiring, promotion, and decisions are based on merit or evidence of what one has done or can do.

It is noteworthy that American culture is the melting pot of different cultures, with Caucasians scoring more individualistic than other ethnic groups.

Un jour elle m'aimera.

Bah oui c'est l'état qui a voulu rendre dépendant les gens

En fait ces études ça part du principe que les gens ont choisi cette société alors que bof

Ça n’en reste pas moins la culture de ces pays.

Le score est une moyenne de la population dans ses dits pays.

Bah non la culture ça change, ça évolue, puis je trouve que c'est trop vaguement défini leur histoire d'individualisme du rapport à l'état

Évidement que la culture évolue, mais les chiffres sont mis à jour chaque année.

En même temps en Inde ils ont pas de thune c'est l'investissement d'une vie ahi